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Debs

Rather worrying I think!

A 14 year old girl has died in Coventry after having the HPV vaccine!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8279855.stm

This vaccine was due to be rolled out in the school where my two both go starting from today. Today however we have had e-mails and texts advising us that the HPV vaccines have been cancelled until further notice.  

My two were not having it as i mentioned on here last week to Kellie. I refused to give authorisation and at the moment I am so glad that I did.
julie

I think it's very worrying indeed. Also this virus may be a cause of cancer but not the only cause we should be telling young girls how to protect themselves as best they can but not to assume a vaccine will be the total answer  
Debs

Julie 100% agree with you there!

I am lucky in the fact that I can talk to my children about things like this.

I had to have treatment back in 1998 for cervical cancer and then had smear tests every year right  up until two years ago when I decided the time was right to try and go three yearly
Mr Stevenson

This is another awkward decisions that parents / pupils have to make.
The HPV vaccine is perfectly safe in all but extreme cases much like the
MMR vaccine, but when someone dies as a result of having it makes us all
stop and take stock. It has not, as yet, been proved that it did cause her
death of course.
Pam7

Well...I can only speak from personal experience...and I KNOW that vaccines HAVE been very good at erradicating some terrible problems in the world...but.....!

It will be 30 years on January 16th that our 3 month old daughter had the whooping cough vaccine.  She was FULLY checked over by our gp before I allowed her to have it.  I never let her 3 year old older brother have the vaccine as my niece had had a fit when she'd had hers.

The next day Lynette was dead.  It was recorded as 'cot death'.

NOTHING will ever take away that element of doubt about that vaccine.  I don't envy mothers of today who have to make this decision.

I heard afterwards of adverse reactions to the meales vaccine too...some saying it was MUCH worse than whooping cough vaccine at the time (it USED to be egg based....HOW did you know at 3 months if you're child was allergic to eggs?? )  

I'm afraid now I'm very wary - only today on the news there was talk of a 'trial' between two different types of swine flu vaccine on children in an area of the UK!  Guinea pigs...not on MY children I'm afraid.
julie

The whooping cough vac left my cousin with damaged lungs and I caught whooping cough from him a few days after he had it. Nearly lost us both at 4 months old  
I know vaccines can be brilliant but I am very wary of them.
Debs

You see Pam I have just been saying to Paul I will never ever know if it was the MMR vaccine that has caused Amy and Zoe's problems? I dont suppose it is something that I will ever find out either

One thing I do know and that is because of they're underlying medical conditions this is one vaccine that they will not be having.

As soon as the forms came home I signed the refusal part of it with no hesitation or second thought
Pam7

I would have done EXACTLY the same Debs!    
Kellie

This hasnt been confirmed as the cause of her death thou.

Thousands of girls have had the jab and are ok, so i personally am happy to let Rachel have the other 2 that go with it. Not that i had a say in it anyway. Although she told me she was having it done the college dont need my consent

Pam sorry to hear about your daughter  
Katy'sclan

I think it has to be down to personal choice and no decision is either right or wrong...we as parents have to make the decision that we and only WE think is right...

My 2 had all their Jabs at the normal age and are both fine...I know of others that have had the various Jabs and there have been side effects that they will never know if it was the jab or not    

My Niece asked me when her daughter was coming up for the MMR if I thought she should have it and it wasn't a question I could or was prepared to answer...i just told her that she and only she could make that decision and it was not up to others to say she was right or wrong...cos at the end of the day she would make what she thought was the right choice for HER child...she did have it done and was fine!

Going back to the original post by Debs...i would be reluctant after todays news to let a child of mine have it TBH...think i would want to know a bit more first!!!

Katy xx
Debs

Sorry but surely if this young girl had a serious underlying medical condition her parents and her would have known about it??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8281673.stm

I fail to see how she can just deveop this condition if indeed it is that she had one in the first place. Call me sceptical, but until all tests have been carried out I think the vaccine programme should be put on hold. But then again as Katy has said each and every one of us are different
julie

It's perfectly possible I suppose for it to be coincidence but for me there is far too much commercial pressure for vaccines to be given willy nilly. I know they can eradicate diseases but when there is no chance of debate before they are given and anyone questioning is shut down immediately I get very nervous.
Kellie

It can be refused thou and some of Rachels friends have done just that, as Debs said each to their own i guess. I was happy for her to have it and i still would be happy with it
Foxy

It is worrying.
I don't envy you having to decide what to do. My daughter is only 6 so a have a few years before she will need it.

As for the MMR My son had it, but my daughter we paid for her to have the single vaccinations. I just didn't know what to believe at the time.  
julie

The key is educated choice IMO - and with MMR unless people paid as you did they had no choice. This new jab is not the only one can be used the government has not said why they chose this particular drug over the others and I think we should be told.
Debs

julie wrote:
The key is educated choice IMO - and with MMR unless people paid as you did they had no choice. This new jab is not the only one can be used the government has not said why they chose this particular drug over the others and I think we should be told.


Julie its the chepaer of the two vaccines apparently and they say that because of that reasonthey can afford to vaccinate an extra 300,00 girls per year!
julie

Well something we always say in this home is you get what you pay for - usually after we have found a bargain really wasn't  

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