Father and children dead in car

Maid Marian · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: Father and children dead in car

This is really terrible cry

What I can never understand in cases like this though is why do they have to kill the children cry

:-x

Investigations are continuing into the deaths of two children and a man, believed to be their father, who were found in a car in an isolated valley.

The three-year-old boy and the girl, aged seven, along with the man, in his 50s, were found inside a Land Rover in a country lane in the Conwy Valley.

Police are treating the deaths of the children as suspicious but are not looking for anyone else in connection.

The children and the man are thought to be from Runcorn in Cheshire.

Police were alerted at about 1500 BST on Sunday by a passer-by, who found the car off a hillside road near Llanrwst on Father's Day.

It was parked on a road leading from the A470 between Tal-y-cafn and Maenan.

A police spokeswoman said officers were not looking for anyone else in connection with the deaths and family have been informed.

Det Ch Insp Wayne Jones from North Wales Police said the children and the man found dead in the car had been reported missing on Saturday night and police in Cheshire had been looking for them.

"Although we haven't formally confirmed the identity of the people, they are strongly believed to be a father and two children," he said.

"Cheshire Police had been trying to locate them since Saturday evening."

He said inquiries would be undertaken to establish a timeline of events in north Wales and Cheshire.

Post-mortem examinations will be held on Monday morning at Glan Clwyd Hospital in order to establish a cause of death.

There had been initial concerns about a substance found around the vehicle and Army experts had been called in, but those fears were unfounded said Det Ch Insp Jones.

A section of the road remains cordoned off a while police examinations continue, the force said.

They have also conducted house-to-house inquiries.

The Land Rover has been taken from the scene to St Asaph and will be subject to further forensic examinations by experts.

Source - BBC

Kellie · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject:

Why do they have to take the kids lives, those poor kids must of been scared stiff. I will never understand why anybody does that cry

Maid Marian · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:

Two children and their father found dead in a car in an isolated beauty spot died from carbon monoxide poisoning, police have confirmed.

Brian Philcox, 52, is thought to have taken his children to the beauty spot in the Conwy Valley and gassed them.

His body was found in a Land Rover with his son Owen, aged three and his daughter Amy, aged seven.

Police said all three from Runcorn in Cheshire had died from poisoning due to inhaling car exhaust fumes.

It was parked on a road leading from the A470 between Tal-y-cafn and Maenan.

Police said Mr Philcox had picked up Amy and Owen from an arranged access visit on Friday.

Det Ch Insp Wayne Jones from North Wales Police said Mr Philcox and the children had been reported missing on Saturday night and police in Cheshire had been looking for them.

He said there had been sighting of the three at Llangollen on Saturday.

Mr Philcox, a karate expert, had told friends he planned the visit because the children were interested in trains.

The post mortem examination at Ysbyty Glan Clwyd showed they all died of carbon monoxide poisoning and further toxicology test are still going on. A pipe had been placed from the exhaust of the Land Rover in through the back window said police.

Det Ch Insp Jones said there were no other injuries on the children.

He added: "It is a difficult case for all involved" and said the mother of the children was being looked after by family liaison officers.

"Obviously, as the mother of the children who were killed, she is devastated, she has suffered this double loss.

"She is being looked after by family liaison officers who are giving her comfort and support at this time, and she does have a good network of family and friends around her but obviously this is a tragic loss that she's suffered."

He added the police were still keen to hear from anyone who might have seen the three between Friday night and Sunday afternoon in order to establish a timeline of events in north Wales and Cheshire.

The officer also confirmed a bomb disposal unit was called to check out the vehicle after Cheshire Police officers found a "hoax device" at Mr Philcox's home address in the Windmill Hill area of Cheshire.

Full report from the BBC

I just can't imagine what the mother of those two beautiful children is going through cry

Kellie · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject:

So so sad

the mother must be going through hell right now

frys_red_jacket · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject:

i saw this on the news today, i can't believe someone would do this.
and it was heartbreaking watching the friend of the little girl talking about her cry

MrsBelch · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject:

totally unreal

tellconer · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject:

its terrible and my heart goes out to the surviving members of the family, but it is not uncommon for a parent to kill their children to ease their own suisides, i pitty the guy he killed two innocent children because he could not cope with life, so often we hear of children been used and abused in some way when we should all cherish them, after all they are a gift from heaven.